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Once upon a time, Gary G. Ford
wrote to Jentje Goslinga, et al., about an article on CO2 & Gore... Jen, Thanks much for the URL - I visited the site. I think it is an important Eye of Discussion, which I am opening up to a greater audience with cc, here. Maybe some readers will "weigh in," I hope? I read it. Still ... Here's what I think from it: The Judge is mistaken, and the UN's Panel of Climate Scientists, I believe, are more mistaken: Does Gore have a Point (not originated by him) that Climates are Changing? OF COURSE, and they Often Did in the PAST too. But ESPECIALLY Changing NOW? Could well be, considering what Mankind is doing to THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH. Some people, because they have Chosen to FOCUS on the ATMOSPHERE as a Career Move earlier in their history, want to make CO2 Additions to the Air THE Cause. And they obviously have the Ear of the MAN who "invented the information super highway" (his self-description once, by shy Albert)! But is BELIEF necessarily truth?! And isn't the Earth's Bio / Aero / Hydro / Geo / Top - Sphere a tad bit complicated for such a Theoretical-Venus-Climate Simulation (EZ, because we know so LITTLE about the planet, subsurface, and about its Geological History, that risk of contradiction for a 'TUNED' Atmospheric CO2, which last is 90% of the immensely dense Venusian Air, is very low ...) approach? I maintain that Panel Slying-Twists may as well be in a position of unscientific interest conflict ... ... for they are being PAID both in direct dollars$$$ and Bragging Rights Prestige to be on such a Panel of Steamed Scientists - Science Prawns, Cleaned, Breaded, Baked and Steamed, Anyone?! - and in many cases are AGREEING With Their Previous Career-Building, Grant-Getting Pronouncements ... ... of CO2 being the main cause of Climate Change, in the face of much faster growing, and immense, alternative of .... .... Ground Cover, Forest, Meadows, Wetlands destruction with replacement with Plowed Farm Fields, Cities, Roads, Industrial Plants, more than capable of Climate change ... ... by virtue of induced changes in Water Distribution and Solar Energy Acceptance and Rejection of Heat, which can accomplish changes of Many Local Climates throughout the Earth, even hundreds of km or more downwind or downstream (as in Amazon Basin) from the areas in which these Changes Wrought by MAN are being implicated upon the Living Surface of the Earth. |
An example is the loss of Winter Precipitation (snow) on Kilimanjaro (not increase of usual Summer Melting) which is leading to the loss of residual stored on the Peak, because AS WITH GREENLAND, it is NOT just Melting which dictates Amount of SNOW/ICE Retained, but rather it is ... (average annual) GAIN of Ice and Snow MINUS LOSSES of Ice and Snow, NOT just Summer Melting. In ANY case, it would also take a BRAVE Scientist to contradict the current FAD of Environmental Science, i.e., CO2 as Evil Life destroying villain, as their could be severe consequences to Funding and Career, in Academe or Government. ........................................................... I remember it was January 2006 when - obviously NOT contemporaneous, as Greenland would be quite dark, and in its Southernmost Tip, only briefly Orange-ly lit as with twilight a few hours each day, at that Time of |Year - Movies started to be shown on TV, bright White Light Sunny, showing streams running off the coast of (Southern, no doubt) Greenland to the Sea, and loud claims of "GREENLAND IS MELTING!". Hmmm ... IN Mid-January?! I doubt it very much, having lived in Fairbanks Alaska, at similar Northernly Latitude as Southern Greenland, in January! Later that year, there were some TV Attempts to slander CO2, Carbon Di-Oxide, the Mother GAS of Our Green Vegetation Photosynthesis, as ... "A deadly, invisible gas ..." which quickly blew away, probably because of their stupidity, I'd guess. Maybe Carbon MON-Oxide, but NOT CO2! Back to Kilimanjaro ... The loss of precipitation is likely due to aggressive removal of trees and bush on its low slopes, and upon the land far around, making room instead for Human Feeding Agriculture. Even over-grazing by goats, who will climb low trees to eat off any leaves, and sheep grazing the roots of smaller plants, removing ground cover, and by horses too, which last will readily eat seedling trees, as you have pointed out to me (all three less-told facts of these grazers), can denude bush and trees, killing them out of an area, transforming large grazed regions, changing ground cover, water retention and movement, as well as evaporation, absorption of solar energy in day, and infrared radiation to the sky at night, hence effecting local climate. Additionally, wetlands often release abundant dimethyl sulfide (CH3SCH3), a powerful water condensation nucleating and cloud formation stimulating agent, thus affecting cloud cover downwind, and hence reflection back downwards of infrared ground emissions by clouds, and even weather, downwind, even hundreds of km away downwind, hence affecting climate over a wider region. Why are THESE ISSUES NOT very much discussed with respect to Politically Charged Climate Change?! |
Could it BE that the current, particular CO2 thrust, with its promotion of implicit notion of Carbon Consumption SIN, and faulting us for the imminent demise of Cute Cuddling White Polar Bears - my Gosh! There SO CUTE! Want to KISS and HUG one for me?!?!?! ... - is carrying on an implicit action which we are ignoring?! For ONE thing, people cowed with guilt - just as serfs in the middle ages - can come to believe they DESERVE their lowly state, and be less rebellious about high prices of FUEL, and now, FOOD! Are there OTHER aspects being subterraneanly "engineered" in MINDS of MEN and the Ecosystems of Our EARTH?! - Or IS IT Really, "Our" Earth?! Could the "REAL" Owners be "Engineering" a Pest Reduction Scheme?! Or a change from Green Plants to some Alien, Purple Variety?! But back to the issue of "Proof" which so convinced the Nonscientific Jurist in the article you referred me to ... Even a coincidental graph of Putative (inferred from a Theory and NOT measured at the times for which it is claimed) Temperature and CO2 (from bubbles ASSUMED UNAFFECTED by storage at great pressure of depth under ice, and as well by drilling processes which recover ice cores deep in Greenland or Antarctica them) CORRESPONDENCE does NOT Prove a "CO2" cause, at all ... As the ground cover vegetation change processes mentioned above, today proceeds largely with much CO2 emission, such as fossil fuel gobbling and burning machines and more historically by CO2 emitting Forest and Grass Field Fires, with lasting CO2 emitting exposure of drained and dead or dying Marsh Vegetation and Cleared Forest Floor Detritus to slow oxidation from enhanced contact with atmospheric Oxygen, thus so yielding CO2 in a variety of ways. Atmospheric CO2 may be in fact more of an indicator of progress of processes leading to Local Climates Changing rather than a cause. Of course, persons ignorant of chemistry might imagine the pH indicator phenolphthalein CAUSES bitterness of liquids to which it is added (evidenced by its red color in alkaline solution) rather than demonstrating alkalinity! We must remember that quite a few Leading CO2 Global Climate Change Partisans were educated as Mathematicians, Physicists, Numerical Modelers, or Geographers (where Climatology USED to be placed ... such as in "San Jose California has a general 'Mediterranean Type' Climate, mild in the Winter, rarely with snow, and dry and very warm in the Summer ..." as a 'Statistical Compilation type of 'discipline'), and that 'Global Climate' is almost a contradiction, and its study a very new and evolving 'Science'. IS THIS ITS 'PHLOGISTON MOMENT'?! Yes, we should ALL Keep Our MINDs Open! "The REAL WORLD is Far More COMPLEX than THEY (want YOU to) THINK!" - Gary Gene Ford swimp@shaw.ca ggford@shaw.ca pweb.netcom.com/~mthorn/magiboom.htm pw1.netcom.com/~mthorn/divinepr.htm |
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Svalbard Global Seed Vault http://www.nordgen.org/sgsv/ brad smith <chair@thule.org> wrote: > The cabal who are in control are in > control. There is planned depopulation > going on from the hybrydization of > world seedstocks so the plants won't > generate viable seeds, to 35 > vaccinations into delicate young > babies thereupon wracked with > ailments proven to have been caused > by excess vaccination, etc. Without a > massive worldwide change of > LIFESTYLE, everybody on Earth will > suffer. Starvation and at the end, > cannibalism. It has happened before, > it will happen again. From space will > come an errant asteroid... > http://www.thule.org/plan.html > > namaste' Supreme Court Backs Monsanto In Seed Patent Case pubs.acs.org/cen/news/86/i02/8602news4.html |
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> > --- Schwann <schwann@webtrance.co.za> wrote: > > > >> --------------------------------- > >> Dearest G, and all the others, scientists > >> and non-scientists alike, > >> > >> The health of our planet, whether from CO2 or deforestation, > >> or whatever, is declining, along with our reserves clean air, > >> fresh water and food...whether it's because of one thing > >> or another isn't the point. The point is for future planners > >> to be aware of such things and take the necessary steps to > >> prevent a further decline. For the people into the C02 > >> business, well they can reduce that, for the people worried > >> about food, well they should concentrate on that, etc etc... > >> there are no easy steps when the sum of man's knowledge is > >> still being knitted together. > >> Any steps in the direction of understanding where we've gone > >> wrong, and how to redress this in the future, are welcome, > >> while we assume that high levels of pronoia will prevail > >> until such time as the energy/food/shelter crisis, on a > >> global level, subsides, and Governments like > >> Mynamar/Burma, who can hold an election a week after a > >> national disaster where a million people are affected, are > >> shown to be the selfish constructs that they are, and just > >> a means of holding onto a standard of living at the expense > >> of the general population... > >> > >> But in the USA, the average standard of living is not > >> that far from what these generals seek to maintain... > >> > >> Schwann |
See Also: Plan 93 from Outer Space |
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>> A-fucking-men, Cybershaman!
>> >> --MT-Tues., May 13, 2008 CE, 6:55 PM, Earth, Sol, Milky Way... >> I N T E R C E P T E D T R A N S M I S S I O N 2 0 0 8 >> http://pweb.netcom.com/~mthorn/intrnmsn.htm Cognition Factor http://www.headspace-studios.com/ http://www.webtrance.co.za/webter.html 
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The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement! "May we live long and die out" http://www.vhemt.org/ ¤ € £ ¥ $ ¤ € £ ¥ $ ¤ € £ ¥ $ ¤
"The human species should be wiped out for what it has done to every other species on this planet! It has no place on this planet. If I am sure of one thing, it is that. If it were not for your destructive weapons, you would have been wiped out a long time ago. And you are going to be wiped out, because now others have the means to wipe you out. But you are not going to go gracefully without taking every form of life on this planet with you." --U. G. Krishnamurti (1918-2007) http://www.well.com/user/jct/index.html ¤ € £ ¥ $ ¤ € £ ¥ $ ¤ € £ ¥ $ ¤
"Shades of the Crazy MoFo, Alex Jones, who claims the carbon-tax will fund the secret govt's nefarious longitudinal agenda to expedite the mass die-off of sub-humans for aristocratic, transhumanistic gains!" pweb.netcom.com/~mthorn/0glacier.htm |
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In July, 1999 Scientific American published two highly-edited letters written by physicists Walter L. Wagner and Franck Wilczek in the Letters to the Editors section pertaining to theoretical particles that might be created by colliders. At that time, the LHC was still on the drawing board, and the RHIC [Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider], some 30-fold lower in energy than the LHC, was nearing completion. This was apparently the first time that consideration was given in the scientific literature to the idea that particle colliders might create minature black holes, as suggested by Dr. Wagner. Since then, numerous theoretical papers have been published suggesting that miniature black holes might be created under some scenarios, though with most suggesting they would quickly evaporate via "Hawking radiation", an untested theory first postulated by Steven Hawking in the early 1970s, and also suggested by Dr. Wagner as the likely result in his original letter to Scientific American. The idea that colliders might create strangelets, as suggested by Dr. Wilczek, had been published in the scientific literature previously by other authors. Walter L. Wagner, Ph.D. www.lhcdefense.org/WHAT_SCIENTISTS_SAY.html LARGE HADRON COLLIDER (LHC) http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/ CERN Courier http://cerncourier.com/ Calabi-Yau spaces www.iscap.columbia.edu/ Large Hadron Collider Sparks 'Doomsday' Lawsuit http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/27/... "The LHC is the first accelerator ever built that has the ability to self-destruct." -- Steve Meyers Brian Greene, Ph.D. www.columbia.edu/cu/physics/fac-bios/Greene/faculty.html |
John D. Hofmeister, President of Houston based Shell Oil Company, said: "Shell Oil has said many times, 'the debate's over.' We're not climatologists, but we're convinced action is needed. No more debate - action." http://www.shell.com/ 
Simian Virus 40 (SV 40), A Possible Human Polyomavirus http://tinyurl.com/5d7b4w SV40 is an abbreviation for Simian vacuolating virus 40 or Simian virus 40, a polyomavirus that is found in both monkeys and humans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV40 |
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See also DAVE EMORY's: "It's Not Easy Being Green - Fascist Infiltration and Co-option of the Green Party" http://www.spitfirelist.com/f628.html and: "It's Not Easy Being Green, Part II - Eco-Fascism" http://www.spitfirelist.com/f629.html as excerpted from: "Ecofascism: lessons from the German experience" by Janet Biehl and Peter Staudenmaier http://tinyurl.com/38gdof ¤ € £ ¥ $ ¤ € £ ¥ $ ¤ € £ ¥ $ ¤
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DID WE REALLY LAND ON PLYMOUTH ROCK?! http://www.cmgww.com/historic/malcolm/about/quotes_by.htm
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