In This Sense... A non sequitur is a conversational
and literary device, often used for comical purposes
(as opposed to its use in formal logic). It is a
comment which, due to its lack of meaning relative
to the comment it follows, is absurd to the point of
being humorous or confusing. Its use can be deliberate
or unintentional. Literally, it is Latin for
"it does not follow". In other literature, a non sequitur
can denote an abrupt, illogical, unexpected or absurd
turn of plot or dialogue not normally associated with
or appropriate to that preceding it. Non sequiturs often appear to be disconnected or
random comments, or random changes in subject,
especially socially inappropriate ones.
When non sequiturs are used frequently for comic
effect this can be called "absurd humor".
The non sequitur can be understood as the converse
of cliché. Traditional comedy and drama can depend
on the ritualization and predictability of human
emotional experiences, where the Theatre of the
Absurd uses disjunction and unpredictability. ...
http://pweb.netcom.com/~mthorn/nonseqtr.htm
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 07:13:11 -0600
From: "Gary Gene Ford" <ggford@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Non Sequitur redux - Re: 'Little Rope'
climbs up! - Re: "thumb less wonders" and hydra...
Re: Global warming theory breaks wind? -- Re: HD189733b:
"Little Fox" -- Additional Notes to: Mighty Maniacs 2008 --
((Re: SATURN MOON -- Re: Global warming theory breaks wind?
[Was: Re: (MESSENGER) Hunt for The Skinwalker (On MERCURY!)]))
Dear Throne Ally,
I don't know some of the names you've added,
but will do a cc also to them, too.
Do you know how the Appellation 'Non Sequitur!'
is actually used, what it means, operationally,
in events of human dispute and judgment?
I see it as an Insulting CLAIM of 'irrelevance' of an argument,
used against an Opponent in a Rhetorical (usually argumentation
done to PERSUADE an Audience, even impromptu and informal,
done to gather support for The Asserter's Line of Argumentation,
while damaging respect seen due to personages opposed, but by
slightly appearing to attack ONLY "the validity" of) Argumentation.
At least that's my best summation I can make of many times
I have seen such a Remark or Appellation Slung ABOUT.
In Mathematics, this is expressed as "Does Not Follow!", which is
a serious, Potentially Reputation-Breaking (for Object of the Claim)
STOP by its Asserter, and not at all always true, as even the usually
Higher-in-the-Math-Professional-Hierarchy, Academically Installed,
Scientific Imperaturs (otherwise it would be a daring and risky act,
if performed by a Novice or a Person of Low Standing in The Sacred
Order) asserting the Appellation, could also be found subject to an all
too common (for likes of 'Ascended Academics') Chance of Failure to
Completely Understand, or Intelligently Express, NOT Only Facts of
Nature, but also Gleaming Nuggets of the "Excrement of the Gods"
Infesting the Triumphal Abstract Mental Edifices of Monkish-kind.
Like Rhetorical Medieval Nominalism's "Occam's Razor" -
an appeal to audience-restful economy of Explanation, hence
guiding the selection of audience-comprehensible theory -
which is a Technique of Rhetorical Selection, and often used
successfully as a 'hunch' or guide by Theoreticians in plotting
their course of foray of attempted conceptual discovery, but
not actual method of Scientific Discovery in the Slightest ...
.... as Nature, beyond the simplicity of reductionist Theoretical
Principles, is often fraught with a surfeit of interacting, covering,
concealing and conflicting physical "mechanism" caused effects,
which careful experimental "set-up" is supposed to rectify by
performing a focused exclusionary physical reduction - hence
the preference of Theoreticians to Theoretically Predict Effects
which require High Order for "Verification", although after Karl
Popper, the Fountains of Thought are supposed to think on the
Merits instead of Potential 'FALSIFICATION', is it not so?! -
Such as is attainable usually in rigidly controlled, often highly
uniform, imposed magnetic fields, and high Atomic Quiet,
hence also at low temperature - ...
... Often at boiling liquid Helium Temperature, in Earth Labs,
as was done in the 1950s to check for CPT symmetry violation,
which was - SURPRISE! - Found for Cobalt 60 beta decay,
a discovery leading to a Nobel Prize in Physics - and showing
the Once Theoretically Hopeful CPR Symmetry Rule was
broken "by the Weak Force", as detected in an experimental
environment at Liquid Helium Temperature in a Controlled
Magnetic Field - ...
... Or sometimes in Physical Simplicity which experimentalists
strive to obtain with reduction of Physical Complexity by
imposition, as well, of EM Shielding, as is done with Type I
Superconductors acting as B-Impenetrable, up to a Critical H,
shielding, at Liquid Hydrogen Temperature or below, used in
the verification of theory-predicted Aharonov-Bohm Effect - ...
... And by use of other simplifying conditions, such as radial
or cylindrical symmetry, low imperfection high crystal order ...
...Or with the greatly decreased interactions of the material
elements under study, if submicroscopic, as with Atomic
Particles, in high, or near, vacuum ...
... Or as by thermal or sonic isolation, or other simplifying,
organizing or shielding methods,
... Often with many enforced simplifications operating at once,
reducing the complexity of Real Nature down to a restrained,
often laboratory, simplified version of nature, so reduced in
complexity to a degree sufficient as to allow some pure item
of matter, energy, momentum, interaction, state or process,
to be studied competently.
But for all these reductionist practices to "tease out"/isolate
special physical effects, there lurks a suppressed question,
which I believe is:
"When the shades and 'stops' are removed,
and the full complexity of reality is allowed,
will the Events still interact together in a Way
which can now actually be fully predicted, just
by assembling just the Known Physical Effects,
which are BELIEVED to be in Operation?!"
After all, even when an Automobile Engine
Mechanic re-assembles an Engine after overhaul,
forgetting to tighten even a single coolant hose clamp,
can ruin the engine in a week, thereafter.
(I know, because I have seen it happen, with a car.)
In my opinion, reassembling an Automobile's Engine
IS MUCH SIMPLER than Simulating Weather
or Climate, for instance.
If "nonlinearities" of interaction, between effects studied previously
in isolation, assume unknown, unexpected, unstudied, or to-present
unstudied forms, then there is always a risk that we may have not
gained sufficient ground to well predict the evolution of a Natural
System, once allowed back into its Full Natural Complexity.
This is a problem, which should be burgeoning, but seems instead
highly suppressed, in recent years of Green Hyped Weather and
Climate Simulations and Simulation Programs.
I admire people who will, like Don Quixote,
"... March into Hell for a Heavenly Cause!".
But I doubt their complete success is anywhere
great enough to justify the Hype which Green
Prophets and Political Hacks are now dumping
on our heads for some few years.
However, the Point is now 'Moot' as a sufficient
Religious/Political Threshold has been crossed,
and Governmental Compulsion, based I believe
on flawed knowledge and thinking, is upon us.
What do I suspect is the main way
in which Mankind is damaging the Earth?
It is really very simple:
In my Opinion, Mankind is destroying the Natural Life of Earth,
by Replacement of Natural Ground Cover Vegetation with Crops,
by Diversion of Natural Water, and by Burning off of the Forests,
and by Scraping off the Live Abode Sea Floors of the Oceans,
all to gain Wealth for the Few, while temporarily providing
"Necessities of Life" to the Many, and this is potentiated
by unrestricted human breeding, often encouraged
and protected by Religion and Social Politics.
Good-Bye, Natural Life!
Take a Final Fly, Former Masters of the Air,
You Migrating Birds, and Monarch Butterflies!
For Men of Science Stumble Around, Stunned,
Ignoring Greater Harm, having caught a Fever,
Raving as Madmen against life supporting CO2,
While Lungs and Guts, Arms and Legs, Heart,
Of the Earth's Once Great and Vibrant Biosphere,
Are hacked out by Marauding Human Scythes!
"The REAL WORLD is Far More COMPLEX
Than They (want YOU to) Believe!" - GGFord
"Play it Again, Throne Ally!"
Gary, Mighty Maniac, Iowan Idiot, COSMOS CHILD
PS: ---->
As to UFOs? - God ONLY Knows!
Who's up? - Who's coming 'round?
Reach through the Veil of Time, Mankind,
To Make a Final Glorious Noise Sublime;
Kiss the Holy Ground beneath your knees,
When THEY Come Tumbling Down,
Gods'll take their Meat Packers' Cull
Of Human Foam, and Fate and Fame! -
As Great, Tornado Turkeys, bathe in fire!
Gary Gene Ford - swimp@shaw.ca - ggford@shaw.ca
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