From: David@longley.demon.co.uk (David Longley)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 96 20:20:00 GMT
Organization: Relational Technology

In article  jqb@netcom.com "Jim Balter" writes:

> In article <846296702snz@longley.demon.co.uk>,
> David Longley  wrote:
> >In article <54qqdj$re9@ux.cs.niu.edu> rickert@cs.niu.edu "Neil Rickert" writes:> >
> >> In <846241304snz@longley.demon.co.uk> David@longley.demon.co.uk (David
>  Longley)
> >>  writes:
> >> 
> >> >All of these discussions are, at root, a fundamental disagreement 
> >> >on  the  nature  of "meanings" and whether  one  *can*  say  that 
> >> >two statements "*mean* the same thing".
> >> 
> >> Of course we can say that two statements "mean the same thing."
> >> People often say this sort of thing.  And if people do say this,
> >> clearly one can say this.  The mistake would be to confuse "mean the
> >> same thing" with logical identity.
> >> 
> >> 
> >No.....the confusion is in believing that in *saying*  something, 
> >one is saying something which is true.
> 
> Saying something like, um, "This is all false"?
> 
Yes.....

And  in the situation where *I* said that, it should be clear  to 
all  who  know the field that claims listed by  the  author  were 
indeed  false.  The  set of propositions were  not  false  simply 
because I said so.
-- 
David Longley